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blogpost: true
date: 1.1.2024
author: Tobias
location: Stuttgart
category: critizism, 2023
tags: critizism, 2023
language: Deutsch
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# Maintaining Nextcloud

**I\'ve been maintaining a private nextcloud instance for years**

More precicely, it\'already my second nextcloud instance after losing a
first one that I just couldn\'t get to work with the latest nc version
any more after missing a few updates.

With all the enshittification going on on the web, I\'d really like to
provide a self-hosted nextcloud as a save data haven for my friends -
but I can\'t.

Nextcloud has become so complex that to me it\'s completely luck weather
my instance runs well. Example? Example.

I\'ve had this problem for a while that Nextcloud logs me in correctly,
but either direcly logs me out again or logs me out after the first
click. Changing the browser would sometimes work, sometimes not.
Inspection of the logs and requests didn\'t show any obvious problems.
Maybe that the session cookie was set \~7 times in the response to
/login.

At the end the solution seemed to be
[this](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/have-to-login-for-2-3-times-until-it-works/31799):
Setting the nextcloud starting page to files instead of the default
(dashboard).

I have no faith left in nextcloud - even though it\'s still the best
solution to my needs. I feel like I always need to be prepared to set it
up from scratch and re-upload my files, because it broke in a seemingly
undeterministic way. And so I can\'t share my nextcloud with my friends
although it would be a good thing to do.